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- To: BOOK_ARTS-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
- Subject: Re: Amazon.com
- From: Art Rubino <Art_Rubino@CLASSIC.MSN.COM>
- Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 00:27:23 UT
- Message-Id: <199801111321.FAA22330@SUL-Server-2.Stanford.EDU>
- Sender: "Book_Arts-L: The list for all the book arts!" <BOOK_ARTS-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU>
Well, as an antiquarian bookseller who also sells new books and books over the
Internet, I must say that it is not Amazon or Barnes & Noble that hurt us. It
is the general apathy towards reading. It is shoplifting. It is people who are
abusive of dealers and damage their expensive inventories.
Also, I think it is very rude & inconsiderate of anyone to visit a local
bookseller, do your research in an expensive to operate private retail store,
shop wear the books, then buy the book at a discount from Amazon or some other
discounter who has no fixed plant or inventory and need offer no services to
the customer except slightly lower price. You may think that this clever and
is to your advantage, but a bookshop is not a public library, and this is
cheap and abusive behavior.
Art Rubino & Co.
Santa Fe, NM.
From: Book_Arts-L: The list for all the book arts! on behalf of lcooper
Sent: Friday, January 09, 1998 3:02 PM
Subject: Fw: Amazon.com
This is a very hard discussion to have since the local bookseller is such a
great part of the community, in those few remaining places where they
continue to exist. Our last one closed down after trying several
reincarnations and sizings. There is an advantage for me to seeing and
touching some books prior to purchase so having a local store is nice. (I
know I can do this at a bookstore andthen go order from one of the many
One finaancial factor to think about with online though. I just had to
return a couple of books to amazon.com. I paid the postage to me and the
return postage. This ate quite abit into any savings I might have realized
if I kept the books.
I buy both ways, in bookstores and online. Barnes and Noble, et al, have
put many a small bookstore out of business. Online bookstores are now
eating heartily into the superstore model. It will sift out. There will
hopefully be room for all in the future. I wonder if online bookstores
have contributed to the overall quantity of books purchased and read, thus
expanding the market for everyone in some ways.
Lee Cooper, a book buyer from many sources
> From: Kerrie Johnston <sweetgums@JUNO.COM>
> To: BOOK_ARTS-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
> Subject: Re: Amazon.com
> Date: Friday, January 09, 1998 7:16 PM
> R Starr wrote to remind us that small bookstores need our
> business. But please remember that no matter how sympathetic we are
> some of us are on very tight budgets and simply can't afford to pay
> several times the price of something just to help out a store. Amazon
> gives 30% discounts for new hardcover books. I honestly can't afford to
> buy them locally for full price if I can get a 30% discount online.
> Same w/ many other books. I honestly can't afford to spend 30% more
> just to help out a store. I'm unemployed & have financial problems of
> my own. And I suspect others are in the same situation sympathetic to
> the small bookstore but unable to pay 30% extra to help it when we have
> financial problems of our own.