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<P><FONT face="Times New Roman, Times, Serif" size=4>I suppose there are parallels with abstract art, ceramics can approximate sculpture, and books are three dimensional objects.&nbsp; But it is also true that to the extent to which they lose the functions of books, they become marginalised.&nbsp; I think myself that too many "concepts" that may be interesting or amusing as such fail to stand the weight of being made concrete.&nbsp; As for "art", I think that once something has been posited as such, it is much more fruitful to consider its <EM>merits</EM> as art - in its genre - rather than whether it is art at all.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=4>MJS</FONT></P></DIV>
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;From: Wendy Hale Davis <WORLDBRIDGER@EARTHLINK.NET>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Reply-To: worldbridger@earthlink.net
<DIV></DIV>&gt;To: BOOK_ARTS-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Subject: Re: book arts criticism?
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 10:55:10 -0500
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<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; Laura Chessin wrote
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; Is it possible to break Book Arts down into the two parts -
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 1. book (the story) and
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 2. art (craft), which includes printing, production, choice and use of materials
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; relative to the subject.
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; Barbara Harman replied:
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; This seems to assume that a book can only be called such if it includes text.
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; Many artist books do not. The 'story' is visual.
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;"Eric C. Alstrom" wrote:
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; ...to reply to Barbara's question, can't the book part (or text, as I would call
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; it) be visual rather than just words. ...I am using the word text in it's
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; broadest meaning - anything that convey's information, story, feeling, context.
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; I would then go on to suggest that the second part (what Laura calls art or
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; craft) should be the medium. ...In my opinion where the art comes in is how
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; these two parts (text and medium) converge and create something greater than the
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; two parts.
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;I heard someone refer to a book structure with text or art as a chalice containing
<DIV></DIV>&gt;wine. It could be a plain chalice or a fancy one, but the point was that it was
<DIV></DIV>&gt;made to hold wine. Much of modern ceramic art has been the deconstruction of form,
<DIV></DIV>&gt;pots that couldn't hold anything, which is part of the 'message.' It seems that
<DIV></DIV>&gt;ours is a similar discussion.
<DIV></DIV>&gt;wendy
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