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Re: [BKARTS] A better way to punch holes



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Dear Rupert,
Yes, please, tell us how to make a paper drill bit to use in a drill press!
Jamie Fine
Final Design
Washington DC

r-evans4 wrote:

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> I have never seen a rotating punch and die used. The standard paper drill uses
> a rotating tube of steel which is sharpened on the bottom end. As it rotates,
> the paper chips flow up through the tube and are discharged out the side of
> the tube. If you are a machinist you can easily make one and use it in a drill
> press, with some end grain wood against which the drill rotates as it cuts
> through the last sheet of paper in the stack.
>     Let me know if you want to know how to make a paper drill bit.
> Rupert
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> >An efficient paper punch has to have a shearing action (like normal
> >handheld single or tabletop three-hole punches from a stationery store)
> >or a drilling action. A flat punch into an anvil surface, like a leather
> >punch, would have to be fantastically sharp and have huge leverage and a
> >perfectly flat contact with the anvil to work well, and that edge would
> >only last one or two punches into the anvil. A paper drill works great
> >but the fancy modern ones are kind of expensive. My favorites are the
> >truly hand operated kind you spin between your hands; they ought to be
> >cheap, but I've never, ever seen them for sale - anyone know where to
> >get them?
> >
> >Of course, if someone wanted to they could make a multi-headed
> >punch-and-die style hand paper punch, but it'd have to have two rotating
> >heads (one for punch and one for die), and it would surely be far too
> >expensive for its very very small market.
> >
> >RCB
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> >
> >Ruth Temple wrote:
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> >> Some of the problem with using a leather punch on paper is that the
> >> punch-heads just are not sharp enough to make it through paper!
> >> There is a Japanese twist-drill with hollow core bits, made for  the
> >> book trade, but it's expensive - around $65-75, depending on what you
> >> find for shipping cost.  The precision and sharpness of the tool, plus
> >> the several bits in varying sizes, make it worth the money.
> >> Having a sharp enough tool makes the job slick and easy...and quick!
> >>
> >> But I don't know of any ratchet-style squeeze handle punches for paper.
> >> best luck!
> >> Ruth
> >>
> >> Sally Canzoneri wrote:
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> >>>I was doing books with a stick binding with a class of elementary school
> >>>children this week and had to make a lot of holes pretty quickly.  I used a
> >>>leather punch type hole punch (the kind with the revolving head to make
> >>>various sizes of hole) that I'd gotten at a hardware store.  The punch
> didn't
> >>>make holes quickly or easily.  This left me with restless kids and a sore
> >>>hand.
> >>>
> >>>It may be that I have a poor quality punch, but I think the problem is in
> the
> >>>design. I was using a ratchet type garden clipper for the sticks and it was
> >>>great.  It seems to me that somebody must have thought of using the same
> >>>technology to make a hand held hole punch work better. Does anyone know if
> I
> >>>am right?  And, if so, where I could get such a punch?
> >>>
> >>>Thanks,
> >>>
> >>>Sally Canzoneri
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> Rupert N. Evans
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