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Re: [BKARTS] BOOK_ARTS-L Digest - 28 Dec 2002 to 29 Dec 2002 (#2002-10)



Hi Peter and all,
I am co-editor of the Southern California GBW Newsletter and would like to
publish this short discussion, as a tip. Is that ok with you all? Angela
Harkavy


----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter D. Verheyen" <verheyen@PHILOBIBLON.COM>
To: <BOOK_ARTS-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU>
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 3:58 PM
Subject: Re: BOOK_ARTS-L Digest - 28 Dec 2002 to 29 Dec 2002 (#2002-10)


> Im Prinzip ja, aber... Soll heissen,
>
> In principle yes, the grain should always run parallel. But this can also
> be controlled by the balanced application of materials. If the board has
> the grain perpendicular to the spine, but the cloth and the paper are
> parallel, it "can" work out just fine. Factors will include, thickness of
> board, expansion (and as a result contraction) of paper and cloth, and
> finally, adhesive, and most importantly experience.  Endpapers should
> ALWAYS be parallel to spine, if for no other reason than that when they
> expand, they need a place to go. If perpendicular to spine, they will be
> restrained by the fold, and expand elsewhere, the result being wrinkles,
...
>
> If we're talking about pages parallel is the good way to go, though
> printers never seem to get it right ;>
>
> Sometimes we don't have a choice with grain direction, especially with
> funky formats. By experimenting, observing, and noting we will develop a
> sense of what works.
>
> In a pinch though, and because it's a good habit to have, grain should
> always run parallel to spine.
>
> p.
>
> At 03:33 PM 12/30/2002 -0800, you wrote:
> >Dear Audrey,
> >
> >Look at it this way: The pages of a book should roll in the direction of
the
> >spine as they are turned, whether the book is shorter than it is tall or
> >wider than it is high.In the latter case, the spine (on the left in
Western
> >or European bindings) is shorter than the width but it is still the spine
> >and the grain must run parallel to it.
> >
> >Yours was not a stupid question at all, Audrey. The answers are sure to
make
> >the us think more about the problem of using grain in the right
direction.
> >
> >Betty
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Audrey Hill" <AudHill57@AOL.COM>
> >To: <BOOK_ARTS-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU>
> >Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 10:40 AM
> >Subject: Re: [BKARTS] BOOK_ARTS-L Digest - 28 Dec 2002 to 29 Dec 2002
> >(#2002-10)
> >
> >
> > > This may be a really stupid question, but when determining the grain
of
> >the
> > > book board why isn't  the length of the book the deciding factor?
> >According
> > > to everything I've read book board is supposed to be placed parallel
grain
> >to
> > > the spine, but what if the book is longer perpendicular to the spine?
> > > Wouldn't that mean that you should change the direction of the
bookboard
> >so
> > > that it doesn't curl upward at the end?
> > >
> > > Audrey
> > >
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