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Re: [BKARTS] period cloth (was animal hide glue)



Good point; I typed before I thunk far enough.

Don

Vernon Wiering wrote:
>
> I agree with Don and Ed that a fabric such as roxite can look quite
> complementary with 19th century book cloths. With the lack of options
> available, this is often satisfactory to the client, since the next
> step is completely rebinding.  Roxite is also easy to work with and
> takes foils nicely. Speaking of foils, I try to match--if not
> exactly--the feel of the original decorations and stamping on the new
> spine. Here a good collection of dies and type is crucial to being able
> to replicate the blind stamping and lettering of the original.
>
> Don, one note. Though sawing in may have been useful to the speed of
> printing in 19th century, it was a practice used on most early American
> bindings long before printing speed was an issue.
>
> Regards,
>
> Vernon
>
> On Jun 4, 2004, at 12:14 PM, Don Rash wrote:
>
> > Susan,
> >
> > Covering in cloth and sawn-in cords are two very different things. Any
> > book that comes into the shop should be treated as respectfully and
> > appropriately as possible. Sawing in was a natural response to the
> > increased speed of printing by binders who at the time were not
> > mechanized at all.But there are better ways of working today...
> > As to your concern about period cloth.If you're able to reuse the
> > original spine, use a cloth that is similar in texture and tone it with
> > acrylics. I can never get an exact match, but if the tone and intensity
> > are close, the repair will be unobtrusive and only show in the joints.
> > Most ethical book people will be quite happy with such a repair; at
> > least that's been my experience. The only time I might condone using
> > original cloth is if I had an unusable cover available; the odds of
> > that
> > (in my shop at least) are pretty low.
> > Good luck.
> >
> > Don Rash
> >
> >
> >
> > Susan Cifaldi wrote:
> >>
> >> I'm sorry to hear that.
> >>
> >> I get the feeling that there is not too much respect for the early
> >> clothbound books.  In fact, when I read Edith Diehl's characterization
> >> of sinking cords as a "vicious" invention of the 18th c., I get the
> >> distinct impression that book respect lessens as one moves farther and
> >> farther from incunabula.  That doesn't seem to be the opinion that
> >> prevails on this list, though.
> >>
> >> With that in mind, and with the unavailability of period-correct
> >> coverings, perhaps that is why I was advised to look for an
> >> inexpensive
> >> period book from which to strip the cloth to use for my backing
> >> projects.   As a historian, I really can't quite do that, but I
> >> wonder,
> >> what are your thoughts regarding such practices?
> >>
> >> I realize I may be opening another philosophical debate; perhaps that
> >> is
> >> why I am asking the question   :-)
> >>
> >> Susan
> >
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