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Re: [BKARTS] Politics and Religion



The whole idea of Booked Art is to engage the reader with the *content of
the book*/installation/reading space etc.




On 1/23/06, Bruce Levy <levybooks@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Well said.
>
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Michael Joseph" <mjoseph@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: BOOK_ARTS-L@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: [BKARTS] Politics and Religion
> > Date:         Sun, 22 Jan 2006 22:06:26 -0500
> >
> >
> > With respect to Mr. Angus, I could not disagree more. I would say that
> > discussions of book art from such an extreme technical bias would appeal
> > to an increasingly narrow and parochial audience, and that, extended to
> > its logical conclusion, would press the meaning of book art so far
> inward
> > it would eventually cease to exist.
> >
> > I believe one of the difficulties of the so-called Book Arts right now
> is
> > there are several overlapping cultures engaged together; there are those
> > for whom book arts serve as a kind of hobby, or a decorative art, and
> > making books provides them with something to do with their time, with an
> > outlet; there are those for whom book arts ritualistically mediates a
> > sense of belonging to a people, of being in touch with exemplary models
> > and reactualizing exemplary acts, of making time disappear; and there
> are
> > those for whom the book serves as a medium of individual creative
> > expression and perhaps political engagement. Book Arts-L has always
> upheld
> > the right of each of these cultures to communicate, has always
> recognized
> > a value in the list's multivocality, and members of each culture have
> > generally been more or less tolerant of the interests of others. Why
> > should that end now?
> >
> >
> >
> > Michael Joseph
> > Rutgers University Libraries
> > Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey
> > 169 College Avenue
> > New Brunswick, NJ 08901
> >
> > On Sun, 22 Jan 2006, Octavia & Co. Press wrote:
> >
> > > The only appropriate place for religious, political, or philosophical
> > > discussion is where a gathering of people have joined together to
> > > discuss that particular topic.
> > >
> > > As a practicing occultist and scholar of religion and philosophy, I
> have
> > > discovered that the only way to openly discuss these topics with an
> > > ounce of integrity is to do so with a completely objective view. This
> is
> > > impossible where the subject has become more than academic.
> > >
> > > In a similar vein, I have heard bookbinders on this list get fanatical
> > > over a particular viewpoint concerning book arts and book
> construction.
> > > There are many schools, designs and beliefs concerning our craft, and
> > > heated debate -- with a modicum of intelligence and tolerance for
> other
> > > viewpoints -- is often required for understanding.
> > >
> > > But that is entirely the point. We joined this list to talk about one
> > > particular subject - book arts and bookbinding. Mr. Pepper's project
> is
> > > fabulous as an example of calligraphy - where I am interested in it is
> > > not the spiritual journey Mr. Pepper is on. It doesn't concern me. His
> > > style, his technique, and his art is what keeps me following his work.
> I
> > > am not at all interested in his political or spiritual beliefs.
> > > Similarly, Islamic bookbindings and Medieval forms of the craft are
> very
> > > interesting from a standpoint of the craft as well. I could care less
> > > whether the Koran or the Bible were the subject matter.
> > >
> > > Lets keep the political, religious and philosophical debate in forums
> > > designed for them.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > Robert Angus
> > > Octavia & Co. Press
> > >
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