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Re: [BKARTS] PVA



There is Elmers wood glue (yellowish) and there is Elmer's white glue, let's not confuse the two.



> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Beth Lee" <callibeth@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: BOOK_ARTS-L@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [BKARTS] PVA
> Date:         Mon, 6 Feb 2006 10:55:38 -0500
> 
> 
> Felice,
> 
> I did a quick run through the Internet and found the following:
> 
> Elmer's Wood Glue contains wood flour and has a pH of 5.
> 	http://www.elmers.com/products/msds/ME720.HTM
> 
> A neutral pH = 7, and anything less than 7 is is acidic.
> 	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PH
> Wood flour is fine sawdust, sometimes used as an extender for adhesives.
> 	http://www.dreamghar.com/w1dic.htm
> 
> Those two things would be enough to discourage me from using it in
> something I want to last.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Beth Lee
> Tallahasee, Florida
> www.callibeth.com
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Book_Arts-L [mailto:BOOK_ARTS-L@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> Felice Lau
> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 10:11 AM
> To: BOOK_ARTS-L@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [BKARTS] PVA
> 
> 
> hi all--
> i just brought up the issue of wood-glue PVA vs.
> bookarts PVA b/c i was wondering if anyone knew the
> exact chemical difference b/t the two types of glue. I
> think i'll do some more research & let the list know
> when i've found something more concrete (no pun
> intended!).
> Thanks!
> felice lau in Ann Arbor, MI
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> > Date:    Sun, 5 Feb 2006 08:09:00 -0600
> > From:    Karen Hanmer <karen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Chicago Hand Bookbinders Exhibition Opens
> > in Milwaukee
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> > Chicago Hand Bookbinders Books About Books
> > Exhibition Opens in Milwaukee
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> > Date:    Sun, 5 Feb 2006 09:49:54 -0800
> > From:    Sarah Horowitz <beyond4s@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: pva
> >
> > While we're on the subject of pva, what about YES
> > paste? Does anyone know if it is archival or at
> > least
> > suitable for paper? I find it very convenient when I
> > need something that is tacky right away and doesn't
> > run or buckle the paper. Specifically, I have some
> > Japanese papers that are beautiful but rather small
> > and want to attach them to make one larger sheet for
> > drawing on (and eventually will be hung and
> > exhibited
> > so it needs to be permanent). YES paste seems to be
> > the easiest to work with. Any other suggestions?
> > thanks,
> > sarah
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> > Date:    Sun, 5 Feb 2006 13:06:14 -0500
> > From:    Lavinia Adler <laviniaa@xxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: pva
> >
> > Stay away from Yes paste for any project you wish to
> > last. That's
> > according to a multitude of people on this list who
> > have experience with
> > it. I think one of the problems is that it turns
> > brown relatively soon.
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> > Date:    Sun, 5 Feb 2006 11:06:56 -0800
> > From:    Guffey <dguff@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Substitute for YES Paste
> >
> > For adhering thin paper (tissue and otherwise) I
> > have had very good luck =
> > with Rollataq Adhesive.  It can be used with the
> > applicator or, I've =
> > used it quite successfully directly from the bottle
> > with a small brush.  =
> > It is low tack, which allows you to reposition glued
> > items, which I find =
> > is a plus. According to the label "it forms a clear,
> > film coating that =
> > will not bleed through--even thin paper. The coating
> > is not sticky, =
> > making repositioning easy. Material remains
> > positionable for 10 minutes. =
> > Then, roll it down for a strong, permanent bond. It
> > is Non-toxic, No =
> > fumes, Acid free, Non-yellowing."=20
> >
> > d.guffey=20
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> >   From: Sarah Horowitz=20
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> >   Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006 9:49 AM
> >   Subject: Re: [BKARTS] pva
> >
> >
> >   While we're on the subject of pva, what about YES
> >   paste? Does anyone know if it is archival or at
> > least
> >   suitable for paper? I find it very convenient when
> > I
> >   need something that is tacky right away and
> > doesn't
> >   run or buckle the paper. Specifically, I have some
> >   Japanese papers that are beautiful but rather
> > small
> >   and want to attach them to make one larger sheet
> > for
> >   drawing on (and eventually will be hung and
> > exhibited
> >   so it needs to be permanent). YES paste seems to
> > be
> >   the easiest to work with. Any other suggestions?
> >   thanks,
> >   sarah
> >
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> > Date:    Sun, 5 Feb 2006 15:49:18 -0500
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> > Subject: Books for sale / Irwin Primer
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> >
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> > Papers read at a Clark Library Symposium, 22=20
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> > Memorial Library, 1968.  Contains Beatrice=20
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> >
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> >
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> >
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> >
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