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Yes... "The BOOK OF LIFE"

Can you name one thing that hasn't been written about?

John

----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Joseph" <mjoseph@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sure, at a certain level, Mr. Hanh is absolutely right. But then the student riots of 1229, the Euxine lake and my ex wife are also books. A Vietnamese monk's transcendental realities are part of the discussion, but unless we want to bring discussion (let alone shelving schemes) to a screaming halt, other perspectives have to be considered also.



On Mon, 23 Apr 2007, collectedbooks wrote:

What could not be a book?

Thich Nhat Hanh, a Vietnamese monk, has written about this aspect of
connection:
The cloud, the sun, the tree, the logger, your mind & ours, are all in this
piece of paper you are reading. Without any one of these elements, it would
not exist. Each one depends on the other, and all others together.



----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Joseph" <mjoseph@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Marguerite,

Some good, semi-absurd, questions! I sympathize with your underlying frustration with the open-endedness of book. However, is it necessary that an artists' book be a book? Why not simply have the central criterion be that the artwork makes a significant reference to a book, or to some material or notional aspect of the Book, or books, so that through reflection a viewer brings the art into being? An artists' book that aspires to _be_ a book is of little value, since books already do a great job of being books. Anything else would be superfluous. I think if you can accept that, the problem of determining what is or isn't a book shrinks in significance. Of course, you'll still have artists' book makers who might see a Rodin or Mondrian (or cave painting) as a kind of found artists' book, and might insist that some painting *is* a book. But that only goes to show the conceptual fertility of artists' books, once one has made the phenomenological step.


On Sat, 21 Apr 2007, Marguerite Radhakrishnan wrote:


Perhaps a different way of phrasing the question would be: what makes a
"book" different from a "painting" or other form of "art"? Someone, I
believe on this list, posted a photograph of a stack of blocks with pictures
on them, referring to it as a "book." Are there any boundaries to the
concept of "book"? If a block with a photograph on it is a "book," or
something that conveys a message is a "book" -- then what is *not* a book?
(From the other direction: how many of you walk into an art museum, full of
Giotto or Mondrian or Rodin or modernist sculpture, and say, "wow, look at
all these books" or, "what fine examples of book-art"?)


only semi-absurdly,

--Marguerite Radhakrishnan

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