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Re: [BKARTS] bookart



I will support you in your use of Ludistic as a word, if we can spell it
Luddistic, (since 'Luddite' has two d's and all). I may have been
accused of being a Luddite before, and I may be so accused again. It's
not really an accurate accusation, but I'm okay with that. 

'Blech' is not a rational response--it's a visceral response,
specifically to the thought of being immersed in a holographic book at
breakfast. However, I am with you in that my personal visceral response
does not negate the value of the media overall. I would be the last
person to argue against people exploring all things bookish through new
media. Please, explore away! Have a good time, tell us all about it!
Just don't expect me to keep it at my breakfast table. Unless maybe it
was just big enough for one hand...

:)
Amy 

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Andrews [mailto:apeiron@xxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 6:02 PM
Subject: Re: bookart

If Amy is correct then Blech seems a bit Ludistic,
if it should turn out that Ludistic is a word.
If not, it seems there is a real need for it.

There just seems to be no rational reason for Blech
if you assume that technological advances and media
revolutions such as Holographic books
do not have to replace or even supplant the good
old technologies and media we know and love
such as books and black and white movies.

Personally I am with you. I will always prefer a paper 
and print book to electronics media,
but it does not argue against the value of that media.
Just the democratization factor alone 
is worth the ticket.

And, lest we forget, the printing press was at one time
just such a revolutionary media advancement.

No doubt there were folks who claimed
to prefer a good old fashioned scribe written book.
Who wouldn't? But you have admit that if it were not
for the printing press most of us today would not know a book
from a pitchfork. We simply would have no access to scribe written
tomes of any interest. If, that is, we actually knew how to read.

And I'll bet that regularity of typography
and lack of illumination
gave some sensitive folks a migraine headache
and they had to confine their reading to quill lettering,
vellum and the censorship of the Church's
mind police. I can't imagine Moby Dick
being copied out in some religious scriptorium.

Who know what works of genius await media
as yet unheard of.

There's that dangling of again.

michael



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Hutchinson, Amy C" <amy-hutchinson@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <BOOK_ARTS-L@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 3:33 PM
Subject: Re: bookart


I can't presume to speak for Peter, but I thought 'Blech!' was the sound
one makes when an idea makes one a little sick to the stomach? If so, I
feel exactly the same way! :) Maybe I'm old-fashioned, but walking
through a moving holograph just isn't my idea of a great way to start
the day, even if they do become the latest and greatest in book art in
some indefinite future. 

The University of Iowa has a Virtual Soldier Research unit on campus,
part of which consists of Virtual Reality labs, one of which is a room
where all four walls become screens for the virtual environment. Rumor
on tech street is that few people have the stomach to close the fourth
wall and be virtually surrounded. You can see more about the research
and facilities here: www.digital-humans.org/facilities.htm

I wonder how things will play out as younger generations grow up with
digital technologies--will screen reading be an issue for them as it is
for many of us? I may not be that much older than they are, but I was
raised on words and pictures that stayed put on the page, and generally
my stomach appreciates it when they continue to do so. Again rumor on
tech street is that there is a significant portion of the population to
whom holographic and virtual technologies are not accessible due to
motion sickness. I wonder if that will be different in younger
generations who are raised with increased exposure to new technologies?

Bit of a longer post than I intended, apologies.

Amy Hutchinson


-----Original Message-----
From: jess [mailto:jessicasyme@xxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 7:31 PM
Subject: Re: bookart

Hi Peter
What does Blech! mean?
Jessica
 

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