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Re: [BKARTS] Wheat Paste



No, I didn't have any problem with bunching paper. After I glued the paper
on, I put the leather in my book press and let it dry overnight, and it
worked fine.



On 1/8/08, rj <h9022@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> When you line the entire cover do you have any problems with the paper
> bunching
> or trying to pull apart from the leather when the cover closes? If so do
> you
> just "live with it" so to speak or do you take steps to mitigate the
> paper's
> tendency to do that.
>
> rj
>
> --- Barbara Simler <moonbindery@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > Yes, I do long stitch, also cross stitch bindings. I usually just use
> paper
> > on the sides facing the book, but sometimes line the entire
> cover--depends
> > on the project.
> >
> > Barbara
> >
> >
> > On 1/8/08, rj <h9022@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > Sounds like you have done what I want to do. Are you doing something
> like
> > > a
> > > long stitch binding?  If that is it do you line the entire leather
> cover
> > > in
> > > paper or just the the sides facing the book block or what.
> > >
> > > rj
> > >
> > > --- Barbara Simler <moonbindery@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I use leather to make books with limp bindings, so don't usually use
> > > > adhesives at all, except sometimes to attach endpapers to the inside
> of
> > > the
> > > > covers. PVA has worked pretty well for this, but I can definitely
> see
> > > how it
> > > > would be important to use paste if you're doing hardcover books.
> Next
> > > time
> > > > I'm attaching endpapers, I think I'll try out the PVA/paste mix and
> just
> > > > paste options, and see how they work.  Thanks for your comments!
> > > >
> > > > Barbara
> > > >
> > > > On 1/7/08, Carol Pratt <jcpratt@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Paste allows the leather to be manipulated in a way that isn't
> > > > > possible with PVA.  With proper paring pasted corners become
> nearly
> > > > > invisible, and the leather moulds to the boards.  Endcaps are easy
> to
> > > > > shape, and the leather stays where you've put it, while it was
> wet.
> > > > >
> > > > > Signa's description of the process is very good, but it does take
> > > > > practice to do it well.  Like most skills, it isn't quite as easy
> as
> > > > > it sounds or looks, but it's the best way to adhere leather.  I
> > > > > wouldn't do it any other way.
> > > > >
> > > > > Leather tanned for purposes other than bookbinding may not work
> with
> > > > > paste, which is why most of us don't use the odd stuff.
> > > > >
> > > > > Carol Pratt
> > > > > Eugene, OR
> > > > > ======
> > > > >
> > > > > On Jan 7, 2008, at 3:43 AM, Scott Coutts wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Barbara Simler wrote:
> > > > > >> On 1/6/08, Scott Coutts <scott.coutts@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Do
> > > > > >> you find
> > > > > >> that the paste/PVA combination works best for pasting paper to
> the
> > > > > >> flesh
> > > > > >> side of leather? I have used straight PVA, which is flexible
> > > > > >> enough to work
> > > > > >> pretty well. I'm just wondering what advantage there is to
> adding
> > > > > >> paste to
> > > > > >> the PVA (other than extending the drying time).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I do use it primarily for extending the drying time, but I think
> it
> > > > > > soaks into the leather a bit better too. I like to have the
> paste
> > > > > > soak into the leather quite well. Also, I use paste+pva for a
> lot
> > > > > > of my work so it's convenient :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Scott
> > > > > >
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Barbara Simler
Moon Bindery
Kamloops, BC
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