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Re: [BKARTS] Conservation OnLine No Longer Being Supported - Thank you Walter and SUL

Our library faces a similar problem.  ACU has been hosting a church history
discussion list (Stone-Campbell movement) for the past 15 years or so.  The
archive search function has been dead for several years, and the machine
that physically still holds the tens of thousands of posts is on the brink
of destruction.  We are looking at ways to potentially integrate the list
archive into our soon-to-be-launched digital archive that is based on
D-space software.  I'm not an open-source programmer and can give no details
into the specifics of this conversion, but as I understand it the antiquated
list-serv software will still manage functionality of the list while dumping
all new posts into the D-space archive.

350Mb isn't going to be that big a strain on any digital archive.  The
problem is finding an institution that cares enough about the list to take
on the project.  I care about it personally, but to "sell" the idea to our
5-library consortium is a completely different matter.

Chad Longley
Preservation Coordinator
ACU Brown Library
ACU Box 29208
Abilene, TX 79699-9208
(325) 674-2542

On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 7:07 PM, Peter D Verheyen <pdverhey@xxxxxxx> wrote:

> This very sad news from Walter Henry who for 22 years built up, developed,
> supported, and occasionally nursed along Conservation OnLine when it was
> showing its age. In those 22 years, eons by technology standards CoOL was
> the first Web 2.0 app and was the Number 1 source for all
> conservation/preservation information, through the DistList it provided the
> first, largest, and still best forum for exchanging information in the
> field. There is nothing that can currently replace it, and definitely not
> amazing level of support it was given by Walter Henry.
> What does this mean for us? Well, for 15 years (Since Day 1 on June 23rd at
> 20:45 GMT) CoOL has hosted the archives of this list. Just about EVERY
> posting, the inspiring as well as the ho hum, debates about the nature of
> the field, art, and craft. Thanks to its searchable archive (indexed way
> before there was a Google) it served as a resource to seasoned practitioners
> and those wanting to make their first book. It helped build this virtual
> community by serving as a vast repository of information that shows us at
> our best, and worst. While we all hope that Walter's wish that the archives
> remain accessible into the future (think of CoOL as digital preservation
> before the term was thought of) there are no guarantees into the future.
> This is very gut wrenching news, but despite it I feel an intense debt of
> gratitude to Walter and Stanford for the service they have provided to the
> many allied fields that call CoOL their home. There is no way we can this
> can adequately be expressed. THANK YOU WALTER.
> On a practical level, what are the alternatives for storing the 324 MB,
> 45,942 messages between June 23, 1994 and December 31, 2007? The online
> archive at <
> http://palimpsest.stanford.edu/byform/mailing-lists/bookarts/index.shtml>
> is up to date, but I doubt few have saved all postings since 1994, and mine
> end with 2007. The Wayback Machine at <
> http://web.archive.org/web/20080201112821/http://palimpsest.stanford.edu/byform/mailing-lists/bookarts/index.shtml>
> only seems complete through October of 2007...
> What does this mean for this list? The list will still go on it has for 15
> years, I will look into having the archive function turned on here at
> Syracuse, but we too are cutting costs in many areas. Beyond that, it will
> be to us as individuals to archive those posts we want to keep on our own
> computers, likely less permanent...
> To honor Walter and CoOL, I invite all to create a book of their favorite
> post, threads, thoughts... We'll have a Bind-O-Rama virtual exhibit of
> those. As Universities like to work in Fiscal Years (FY) lets start creating
> them on June 30, the close of the current one. Entry deadline is August 30,
> 2009. The exhibit will be dedicated to Walter and CoOL.The tone should be
> celebratory as I certainly never imagined this (the Archive and Book_Arts-L)
> going on for as long as they have.
> Walter and Stanford, THANK YOU again for all.
> Peter
> Date: 10 Jun 2009
> From: Catherine Tierney <ctierney [at] stanford__edu>
> Subject: CoOL and the Conservation DistList
> Dear Colleagues,
> This is a difficult posting to write.  For twenty two years, it has
> been Stanford University Libraries' great pleasure to serve and
> support the conservation community by hosting Conservation OnLine.
> Sadly, Stanford---like so many other institutions---has been hurt by
> the economy.  As a result, we have had to make difficult choices. It
> is with deep regret that I inform you that we are no longer able to
> support CoOL.  We feel it is important to alert you to this change
> as we are aware that so many of you rely on the distribution list as
> a medium of communication; there are still a number of things to be
> worked out.
> <http://news.stanford.edu/news/2009/june17/layoffs-061709.html>
> Catherine Tierney
> Associate University Librarian for Technical Services
> Stanford University Libraries and Academic Information Resources
> ------------------------------
> Date: 10 Jun 2009
> From: Walter Henry <request [at] cool__stanford__edu>
> Subject: CoOL and the Conservation DistList
> It has been a great pleasure and privilege to work with this
> community and I look forward to finding ways to continue to do so.
> I've always held that conservation professionals were, as a class,
> unusually committed to the cause they serve; we really do care
> deeply about the cultural materials we are lucky enough to work
> with, and that care takes form in a remarkable dedication to the
> profession, to the ethical foundations upon which it is built, and
> to the community of practitioners from whatever discipline or
> specialty.
> So, at the beginning of what would have been the DistList's twenty
> third year it is with great sadness, but also with some sense of
> pride, that I finally give up this enterprise and that of
> Conservation OnLine as a whole.  I don't know exactly what will
> happen to the resources here but I have every faith that their fate
> will be in good hands.
> I would like to thank, with all sincerity, Stanford University
> Libraries and Academic Information Resources, my own department, the
> systems and IT staff, and most of all the directorate, who have been
> unfalteringly supportive of my work all these years, and I know
> would continue to be so were the world in just a little better shape
> than it is now.
> As DistList tradition demands, I leave you a final accounting:  As
> of this day, the Conservation DistList comprises 9696 people from at
> least 91 countries. Conservation OnLine contains, at a very rough
> guess, 120,000 documents, possibly quite a few more.  I hope they
> have been useful to you all, and I hope to be of service to you as
> we move into the future.
> onward,
> walter
> ***************************
> Peter D. Verheyen
> Head of Preservation and Conservation
> Syracuse University Library
> Syracuse, NY 13244
> (315) 443-9756
> <mailto:pdverhey@xxxxxxx>
> <http://libwww.syr.edu/information/preservation>
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